Celebrity armwrestle newsletter no.2 Hi. Welcome to the second newsletter with the "celebrity fantasy armwrestling tournament". Because this letter will be kinda long, it's divided into three parts. 1. results and new matches to vote on and a personal request 2. some match descriptions 3. other interesting stuff and at the very end notes about the procedure and administrative stuff. This newsletter is not only sent via email, it is also published on Diana the Valkyrie's site and on the AAWA and ASFW newsgroup. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1.A. match results: Remember? Last time we had the match-ups for Round one of Group one. Here are the results according to your votes: Oh, I have to mention this before I forget: I didn't mention clearly in the last newsletter, that I will give additional points, if the voter states why he/she thinks that one contender wins (e.g.: How could Carmen Electra win against Jenny McCarthy?) She didn't, don't worry, just an example. Here's the score: Renne O'Connor vs. Holly Hunter -> RENEE O'CONNOR wins. Sarah Jessica Parker vs. Salma Hayek -> SARAH JESSICA PARKER wins. Salt vs. Gloria Estefan -> SALT wins. Lauren Holly vs. Gwen Stefani (from No doubt) -> sorry, the score was tied. You have to vote again. Teri Hatcher vs. Gina Gershon -> GINA GERSHON wins. Gillian Anderson vs. Pamela Anderson -> PAMELA ANDERSON (LEE) wins. Courtney Cox vs. Jennifer Aniston -> sorry, the score was tied, you have to vote again. Carmen Electra vs. Jenny McCarthy -> JENNY MCCARTHY wins. Mini tournament between the tennis stars: Gabriela Sabatini vs. Martina Hingis -> SABATINI wins. No one chose Hingis Steffi Graf vs. Mary Pierce -> STEFFI GRAF wins. Please send in your dream matchups for the second round of group one! I'm sorry, I'm a bit disorganized today. This is my email adress to send me anything: votes, complaints, discussion stuff, questions, if you want to get this newsletter via email (fr free), www sites, anything really. Ok, on we go: Round 1, Group 2: Demi Moore vs. Meg Ryan Geena Davis vs. Helen Hunt Cindy Crawford vs. Nicole Kidman Anna Nicole Smith vs. Brooke Shields Lucy Lawless vs. Elle McPherson Mariah Carey vs. Angela Bassett Fran Drescher vs. Geena Lee Nolin Alyssa Milano vs. Shannen Doherty And the Tennis-Stars' final: for third place: Martina Hingis vs. Mary Pierce championship: Gabriela Sabatini vs. Steffi Graf Personal request: Can anybody tell me about the Ray Martin video company. Do they sell videos on the net? I've requested flyers three times (because I heard they've got good armwrestling videos), but they never sent me anything. Maybe they don't sell overseas? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, End of part one ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ P.S.: This message is sent to more than one reader at once. If you reply, please make sure your reply only goes out to me. If your reply says something you want the whole group to read, I'll post it in the next newsletter. Subject: celeb armwrestle newsletter no.2 part 2/3 2. some match descriptions: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RENEE O'CONNOR VS. HOLLY HUNTER a) Age has taken the bite from Holly's attack but her will is still greater than that of young warrior Renee. Renee starts fast and aggressive over powering Holly who doesn't seem too shaken. Renee gets resistance, Holly fights back and shows the youngster how a seasoned woman fighter handles adversity. Renee trembles as Holly begins to drop her for the win. But Renee grunts back and with her last ounces of strength and pins Holly down for the upset. Renee doesn't exactly celebrate, she just thanks God it ain't two-out-of-three. b) When looking at the two women, it may be a difficult match to choose. But, careful investigations show that O'Connor has an distinct edge in the size of the arms. One of her hobbies is lifting weights, which she does to "stay in shape for her role in Xena: Princess Warrior." The physical work that she does in the show probably makes her stronger than the talented Hunter. It could be a tough match or a really quick one, but: Decision: O'Connor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SARAH JESSICA PARKER VS SALMA HAYAK a) The bubbly, bouncy Sarah Jessica Parker has proven herself as a very capable actress, taking a variety of different roles. She goes bare armed in many of these films and there is some vascularity and definition there. I am not too familiar with Selma Hayek, but from her pictures she looks like a beautiful women. But beauty will not get her through this match. In a quick match: Decision: S.J. Parker LOSER WRITE-UPS: a) Determined to see Salma's big breasts sag with defeat, Sarah mounts a slow attack to wear out the chesty Latina. Salama doesn't buy it and it becomes a test of endurance between two strong girls. Sarah more than threatens with numerous near-pins and the Latina sweats herself to near dehydration trying to match strength with the magnificent Ms Parker. But time is cruel to Jessica who finally succumbs to Salma's determination. Salma wins but not by much. b) Hayek comes to the armwrestling table carrying a large duffle bag. During the match, the albino snake from "From Dusk till Dawn" slithers out of the duffle bag and wraps around Parker's torso and cuts off you air supply. Hayek gets an easy win. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALT vs GLORIA ESTEFAN a) Gloria's plan to wipe the smug confidence off the rappers face fails. Salt is just to hot tempered and finely tuned for the disco queen to handle. Gloria goes down in record time and Salt shakes her boobies all over in contempt. LOSER WRITE-UPS: a) We all know Salt's talents as a rapper/artist, but an MTV fan I'm sure has seen the video "Whatta Man", where salt is shown flexing for the camera. Very Impressive for a woman of her small stature. She would have an easy time with a number of the other women in the draw, but she was given a tough first round match. Gloria Estefan is now well know for now only her singing career, but also her comeback from that terrible accident. She now lifts and works out every day, which is evident by her huge arms. Sometimes she shows up a little flabby, so it is hard to tell how dedicated she is, and how strong she is. I predict this to be one of the better first round matches, but you gotta go with the bigger bi's in this one: Decision: Estefan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TERI HATCHER VS GINA GERSHON a) Hot ladies!!! Two of the best looking brunettes in Hollywood matching it up. Teri Hatcher has been working with the highly muscled Dean Cain for a while now, and you'd think she'd have put on a little more muscle herself, but she still has relatively stick arms. She is rough though, and could put up afight against anyone. Gershon, she of the arm tattoo now, played the tough, butch, Corky in "Bound", and when I saw her on Letterman, she shows some arm vascularity. With a nice draw in the first round, expect her to get through. Decision: Gershon b) Gershon tells Hatcher how much she is getting turned on by holding Hatcher's hand and how much Gershon wants to get here alone to show just how turned on she is. Hatcher get nervous and runs away. Gershon wins by default ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GILLIAN ANDERSON VS PAMELA ANDERSON a) Come on now!!! Gillian is an incredibly good looking woman, but armwrestling??? You must be kidding me. Her toothpick arms will get shredded by most anyone! Pam, on the other hand, has nice triceps and good arm vascularity to go with her winner take all attitiude. She will easily win. Sorry Gill. Decision: P. Anderson b) Gillian Anderson comes out in a one-piece bathing suit. She smiles and waves as she is introduced. She stand by the table and waits as Pamela Anderson comes out to huge cheers in her "Baywatch" red swimsuit. She waves to the crowd, and then suddenly shocks the audience -- and Gillian -- by striking a quick muscle pose to intimidate Gillian! Gillian smiles at Pamela. Pamela walks right to the table and places her arm on the table! The ref directs the lockup and blows his whistle! Immediately Pam begins to take down Gillian! Gillian trembles and winces, but she can't stop the quick descent of her arm! Pamela puts Gillian to the table in three seconds! Pam raises her arms in victory with a huge smile as the audience cheers while the defeated Gillian looks up into the air with a smile on her face, realizing that Pam was stronger than her! c) The match is intense and Pamela starts to get the upper hand but then suddenly LASER beams shoot from Gillian's Eyes and vaporize Pamela. Oh uh, it not really Gillian but an alien clone with supernatural powers. Gillian is disqualified for unsportsman like conduct after it proceeds to vaporize the all the spectators. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CARMEN ELECTRA VS JENNY MCCARTHY a) As for the matches you've got up for grabs now, I see Jenny McCarthy coming down in a red bikini at a beach to face off against Carmen Electra. Jenny is obviously taller and has a good bicep, which she displays in typical McCarthy style before putting her arm on the table. Carmen smiles in her black thong and locks up with Jenny. The whistle blows and immediately fans of both women cheer them on. Jenny's eyes are bulging in surprise as Carmen is holding her steady, even steven! Both women are trembling and Jenny for some reason begins to shake her head no as she bows it, seemingly refusing to give Carmen an edge! But Carmen is fighting hard, and Jenny knows she's going to have to go through a lot of pain and effort to win! This wouldn't be as easy for Jenny as she thought! The two women are trembling and finally Jenny moves Carmen's arm from 12 o'clock to 1 o'clock. But Carmen stops it right there! Jenny's face is reddening and grimacing in effort while Carmen is also grimacing, fighting for all she's worth! The arms and bodies of both women are trembling now! They couldn't keep up this pressure forever! Jenny then moved Carmen's arm to 2 o'clock, but it was a very slow process. Carmen is now trembling away but is fully concentrated on the match while Jenny is moving her head back and forth, trying to keep in the match by psyching herself out! Finally, Jenny gets Carmen down to 3 o'clock! But not without some major effort! How long could Jenny keep this up? Her face was now as red as a beet but she now had a convincing edge on Carmen. Jenny was moving Carmen's trembling arm very slowly to the table, but you could tell by Jenny's gyrations that it was a very painful process. Jenny got Carmen down to 4 o'clock. Carmen was trembling and putting everything into it that she had, but her arm just wasn't quite as strong as Jenny's. Jenny finally put Electra away in 12 seconds! Jenny releases Carmen's arm and the gorgeous blonde falls face first onto the table for a few minutes, gasping for breath and recovering from her torturous activity! Jenny then stands erect and celebrates her victory as the loser, Carmen, gives her a congratulations hug. LOSER WRITE-UPS: a) Another good matchup. Jenny might have made the semifinals of you last tourney, but Carmen has as good a shot as anyone of getting the win here. As a matter of fact, I think Carmen's arms are at least Jenny's size, if not bigger. She is just as attractive and maybe a little taller too. I'm not sure about that, though. Jenny has an athletic background, and has shown prowess as a kickboxer! She is rough and tough which is where she gains a slight advantage. BUT........I believe the arms tell the story, and Carmen has Jenny there. This is the best match. It will be a greuling battle, but here is the Upset Special: Decision: Electra ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GABRIELLE SABATINI VS MARTINA HINGIS a) Martina is too good and Gabrielle knows it. But to even things out cheating Gabrielle gives Martina a bare-foot kick to the belly under the table - but it has no effect. Gabrielle gives her another and another and finally kicks so deep that poor Martina's arm folds and Gabby gets the win. Martina limps off the court clutching her mid-section b) Although Martina is a better player, Gaby is stronger. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ STEFFI GRAFF VS MARY PIERCE a) Sweet Mary knows she is little match against a seasoned champ like Graff. She takes her time, the match is long and drawn out and Mary looks like a clear winner as Steffi begins to sway back and forth from exhaustion. 15 minutes into the match Steffi is still holding on and Mary begins to feel the fatigue. Neither girl wins with glory but it's finally Steffi who pins down Mary at the 20 minutes mark. Both collapses, one on top of the other. b) Steffi could probably take the average man, at least. I'll pick her over Mary. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End of part two. P.S.: Please note, this mail is sent to more than one person. If you reply, make sure you reply only to me. Subject: celeb armwrestle newsletter no.2 part 3/3 3. other stuff I picked this discussion stuff from the newsgroups, from emails and from sites. Enjoy and send my your own opinions: a) A while back, I asked a newsgroup who would win a fight between Brooke and Cynthia. The results were nearly 2-1 in favor of Brooke due to a huge bicep she has and her athleticism. This battle has also been fantasized in the Female Fighters folder in AOL. Brooke again was the winner. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ b) something considering celebrity muscle: > 1. Kim Wayans I haven't seen the show you mentioned, but I remember an old In Living Color (although I'm not 100% certain it was her) where in one of those Vera DiMilo skits (with Jim Carrey playing/mocking a female bodybuilder - I DON'T find that topic funny), he was with two other 'competitors'. One was a tall black girl who really did have some rocking muscles, I think it was Kim. Also, even if you don't have a sense of humor, many of the flygirls had nice hardbodies, too. Usually you could see strong legs and sometimes nice midsections - if only they'd stay in one place long enough! > > 2. Eleanor Mondale Haven't seen her on E! lately, (too much time in AAWA-land!), but she ALSO looks very good for her age, too. Is she now either late 30's or early 40's? > > 2. Giselle Fernandez As I've said in a different post, I remember her years ago when she was a local neophyte at Channel 6 in South Florida. All I remember was that tan face and hands, and business suits. But that was enough for me, I was hooked! I caught one Access Hollywood, and she only had one guest interview, oh darn. Although I rarely catch morning news shows, I once saw this clip of Katie Couric (one morning anchor you didn't mention) where, through her business suit jacket, she flexed her right bicep from the rear over and over again, kind of like that dancing bicep stuff that Sherry Thompson did years ago? Does anyone know what Katie looks like under that jacket? Her arm looked pretty solid and sizable for her size. It was mentioned elsewhere that Yancy Butler (from the movie "The Ex" and the short-lived TV show Mann and Machine - guess what she was?) has muscles at least as good as the other actresses in these lists, if not better. "The Ex" was great, if you like watching tough women protagonists, who are just slightly off balance! And last but not least, she was mentioned in another post dealing with movies, but Lucinda Dickey may be the BEST of all. Her musculature in "Ninja 3: The Domination" was downright slap-you-in-the-face noticeable. Anybody seen her in anything else? My 3 cents worth, P.S. I read something about a year ago about Linda Hamilton wanting to be known as a serious actress. All she hears now is people wanting to look at her arms. She wants to downplay them since Terminator II. Another one bites the dust? Easy come, easy go? -jabber c) Actually the second best I've ever seen (Bassett being a no-brainer first place) ... and I do fondly remember Lucinda Dickey's Ninja movie ... was an actress on a Happy Days episode ... She played the daughter of an admiral, who went out on a date with Richie Cunningham. Her arms litterally rippled in a scene in Fonzi's apartment. I recall mentioning it to Steve Wennerstrom once, and he said that at the time, he contacted her agent about an appearance in what must have been the earliest Body and Power magazine, and never heard back from him. d) The "Pendragons" were on Letterman recently and it was my first time seeing them. Charlotte wore a white one-piece swimsuit which showed off a well-muscled, and very well-defined body. She's a very attractive woman and she must be at least 5-8 or 5-9. Is there anything finer than long, muscular legs?? Well, she's got the quads, the hamstrings, the calves, and the tiny ankles that drive me wild. And guess what - her upper body is equally as appealing. Tre' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ d) >hi, >please sign me up for your list. a favorite celeb fan is newscaster >giselle fernandez. i would love to see her go up against angela basset. >pat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ e) Posted by: Norpan (ta_mig@hotmail.com) 02/25/97 10:09 Yepp there can be strenght without huge muscles, read this : This is a story about when I first realised that females are often stronger I'm I'm a Swedish boy, 27 years old, 6,1 foot and about 180 pound, size 6 in shoes. I'm doing 77 pounds in benchpressing - once There was this midsummer-party last summer. I had just meet a new girlfriend, Lisa, and went to her best friends place for a little party, just the three of us, me and two small girls, Lisa and Carol (about 5,4 foot). It was a warm Swedish summernight and we had dinner with some wine and beer. After a few beer the girls started to talk about boys and muscles, I'm not so muscular so I grabbed a beer and keep quiet. Then Lisa said the magic words. Come on, let's do some armwrestling, to find out who's the strongets of us, she laughed. She wanted me first, she grabbed my hand - hard. We where ready and Carol started us. I could't move her ! How much I tried, she moved my hand closer to the table, there was nothing I could do. Lisa won without any problem, I was chocked ! The two girls was screaming of happieness ! Carol now started to take of her shirt, she had a swimsuit under, when I saw her body I realised that this should not be easy. She had nice abs, muscular legs, and just for making me shaky, she started to flex her biceps, they where bigger than my girlfriends - they where even a little bigger than mine (12") . Now I was shaking, I felt something hard in my pants. The girls asked me to show my biceps, Carol smiled a little when she squeezed my right biceps. She took my hand. We started and I did move her a little bit, and a little bit more, then I could not move her at all, and I realised, she was just playing with me. She hold me for about 2 minutes - I really wanted to beat her. Then she looked on my girlfriend and laughed - Now I'm going to show your weak boyfriend real female power ! She really did, first she squeezed my hand until I screamed a little, then slammed my hand in the table without any problem ! She shouted something about her strenght and my weakness. She did some posing and showed her muscles for me and Lisa. My girlfriend Lisa now started to feel on Carol muscles, she was really impressed of her body. Carol wrestled Lisa and won. The girls was so happy over both beeing stronger than me. Later in the evening my girlfriend grabbed me from behind, she holded my hands om my back and I could not get free. Both of them where stronger than me so I could't do anything, I did get free once but after a short chase they took of my clothes and tied me up outside behind two trees . The rest is another story . . . It was a wonderful party and they has not told anyone about it, but when there just the three of us together they sometimes "beat me up" in wrestling and armwrestling. Lisa is even stronger these days after some training, and sometimes she shows her power, It really turns me on. I Love female muscles and my dream is to feel a massive muscular female body next to mine Sorry for my english but I'm from Sweden. Norpan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ f) some sites: http://www.cheme.cornell.edu/~slevine/old/ripley-connor.html A Grudge match description of Ripley (Sigourney Weaver) vs. Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) http://www.cheme.cornell.edu/~slevine/old/bionic-wonder.html Same with Bionic Woman vs. Wonder Woman http://www.cheme.cornell.edu/~slevine/old/jeannie-samantha.html Same with Jeannie and Samantha Some fantasy non-armwrestling matches: http://cust2.iamerica.net/fairchild/callisto/madcats.htm http://cust2.iamerica.net/fairchild/callisto/wonder.htm http://cust2.iamerica.net/fairchild/callisto/twins.htm Does anybody know the Swankyville URL? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ g) >My dream is to see pictures of these armwrestling matches on Diana's site: > > Jill Goodacre vs. Tia Carrere > Sunny vs. Marlena (from the WWF) > Jenny McCarthy on Singled Out > >All three where real but I didn't see them. > >Keep up the good work! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ h) Hi. I found your armwrestling issue and really enjoyed it. Thanks. I'm into male versus female armwrestling. I even included it in one of my stories in Diana's library (Three on Three, I'm MBP). I'm also writing another mixed armwrestling story which should be the next one I complete. I looked through some of the URLs and enjoyed them. By the way, I don't think that is Elisabeth Shue's bicep (although it was a nice picture). I think that her knee was superimposed on her arm, giving the impression of a bicep. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ i) Hello, Yes, keep me up to date on events. I'm a staff member of the Metropolitan Club and noticed that you were nice enough to include us in your list of arm wrestling sites. http://members.aol.com/metclub1/arm_wrestling/armwrsl.html You might want to add an explanatory note to our address mentioning that the arm wrestling section of the Met is exclusively devoted to women and that we update every other month with a brand new match (rather an unusually high refresh rate if I do say so myself!) thanks again, good luck! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And know the procedure stuff: - to vote send your vote, a reasoning or a match description to me. - Do the same if you want me to send you this newsletter regularly via email My adress is: fk5y010@public.uni-hamburg.de If your a newsgroup reader, do not post your reply there, cause I will miss it. So long, c u! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ End of Part three P.S.: This newsletter is sent to more than 1 person. If you reply, make sure you reply only to me.