ARE WE NOT MEN? By Dr. Sigmund Biceps PhD Once again the chatroom was filled with cigar smoke, smooth whisky, muscular women and stimulating discussions of the origins of schmoos. Fistman, a legal eagle, showed an impressive grasp of developmental p sychology and left the room spellbound with his own particularly pertinent postulates... FistMan - are you a believer in the freudian theory of fetish, tex? TSfkaLen - Freud has a theory on fetish? FistMan - sure did...i'll give a brief explanation and tex can correct me if i screw up Tex - No, Fist...not really familiar with a specific Freudian theory with regards to fetishes...however, most Freudian theories ignore behavioral aspects (Skinner) and genetic influences... FistMan - basically, freud said that there are 4 main fetishes....feet, hair, legs, and breasts FistMan - his theory was that a fetish takes its roots in a baby's first conscious moments TSfkaLen - This sounds interesting... FistMan - and a baby is most likely to become fully conscious for the first time in one of a few places FistMan - at his mother's feet FistMan - over her shoulder with its face in her hair FistMan - or at her breasts feeding or just being held there FistMan - the baby at his mother's feet either sees her feet or is looking up at her legs FistMan - so if your first conscious moment was a painful one, you might grow up to be a masochist Tex - so if the mom had hairy legs, the kid's into legs and hirsuite women? FistMan - and if your first conscious moment was being scissored....lol * Tex must have been an armpit delivery...came out and felt a flexed biceps... TSfkaLen - ...or breast smothered... :-) Come to think of it, in that case, a lot more guys should have that fetish FistMan - well most men do love breasts Fist's "First Fredian Thang Theory" is only one of many...Here are more chattin' extrapolations... FistMan - i think somewhere in early development some men are exposed to and perceive a strong women in a positive way...as we grow and become part of society, we learn to equate muscles with strength...so when we see our first muscular woman, we get an erection because muscle means strong or dominant or whatever Tex - Len, my "evolutionary schmoo theory" says the decreasing need for muscular power to "bring home the bacon" (a traditional male role) is leaving room for women to become more dominant...but I think yer right, femuscle represents a better progeny-potential... Socrates - here is one of my theories - as you might know - the average person is say 90% their gender and 10% the opposite (think of this in terms of hormones or yin/yang) - if someone is 80/20 they look for someone who is 20/80 to balance them - however sometimes when someone is 95/5 (very macho guy) he might also look for a female is macho because he is out of touch with his feminine side And on and on and on.... Unfortunately, I must report that my survey has experienced serious technical p roblems and any results are further delayed...:-( ....'til next month...DSBs