TRUTH VS FICTION FOR KAREN THE BOXER Part II


I have received more emails from friends who have seen my first Truth and
Fiction postings than from anything else I have ever done. Including getting
married and having my kids birth announcements!! Some friends wanted to make
sure Karen and husband approved everything first to make sure I was not in
harm's way. Funny in some ways but I did not get anything approved beforehand,
however, they were very aware of my intentions and approved of what I wrote
AFTER it appeared on this sight. To that end I wanted to do one more and call
it a day. Keep in mind that I was one of a bunch of people that rented beach
houses with her for 7 or so years. I had a half share which allowed me to go
every other weekend but she went every weekend. Plus I would see her 3-5 times
a year in the City at parties and maybe 2-3 times a year after that until she
moved to Florida. Most of what I am writing comes from those times and my
great friendship with her X husband X #1 as they say. He too knows that I am
writing this stuff.

---Still fighting- yes, she is still boxing, even after her babies, and is as
active as ever. No, I have not seen her fight in a very long time but this
info comes from the videos on her site as well as speaking to her and 2
others.

--Slept with her? I only wish!! No, never. Inmy mind? A million times!1 Ha, OK
enough of that, ha ha.

---Does my wife know her and know I am doing this? Yes and yes. Neither of us
are or were ever fighters in any way shape or form. My wife and her were
friendly back then but not so much now.

Marathon runner- Yes, she completed a few including one in NYC where the whole
gang met her and a few other friends at the finish line to party at a steak
restaurant on the eastside.

---The Popeye video- I know what you know. She dressed up as Olive Oil, wig
and the whole deal, and boxed some large breasted woman and gave her one hell
of a beat down. I do not know the other woman nor know any details about when
and where but it was outdoors as you can see. The whole 3 round beating is on
her site. Honestly, since the other woman was bigger in some ways, certainly
in the chest and muscle department, I thought she would win but what the heck
do I know apparently. Other woman was unconscious a damn long time too. I
watched that video several times and was able to watch a lot of it in slow
motion by hitting the arrow in the lower left corner. Really cool watching
both of them level hard blows at one another and watching that EXACT moment
where Karen puts her out on her feet and watch the other woman drop her hands,
her shoulders hunch forward, her eyes roll back and then Karen grabs her so
she does not fall and begins peppering her sides with lots of blows. I can't
imagine the pain that caused this woman. Then she pushes her back, and this
woman could easily kick my butt I am sure as she was big-broad- huge
boobs-muscular and obviously was an experienced boxer, and then Karen jabs her
4-5 times and her head is really jerking back and again her hands start to
drop and even though she is wearing this tight dress her muscles in her arms
and in her abs were showing through and then Karen throws this overhand right
and down she went face first and done. Seeing Karen roll her over on her back
and with those big tits on her opponent sucking in air even I have to say it
was quite the video. Time to watch that bad boy again, ha ha.

The way she dresses- look, not my department in many ways of course. But I
agree she does dress to showoff that body and I agree sometimes a little too
much. Back when I was hanging with her, keeping in mind it was during the hot
summer month's, she always wore clothes to accent those abs and arms. On a
side note, we all loved it!!! OK I am back, ha ha. The best outfit I remember
her wearing a lot back then was a bikini top and tight jeans. VAVAvooom, ha
ha. Amazing body, period. I have seen her in all types of outfits and they are
all amazingly sexy and revealing in one way or another. Even her work clothes
in my humble opinion, were a drop over the top. Everything was just a drop too
tight revealing her "attributes" which I know are incredible but still. I know
of one occasion where a senior partner reprimanded her for that.

I will not and would never consider addressing all the sexual stuff that
surrounds her in the gossip department. The Wall on her site has a lot of that
kind of stuff.

Slaves- yes sir, she had em' back then and I met some of them. Weird as shit
but there they were. Once I got over the initial shock that such a person
actually exists I asked and learned more. Suffice it to say, these men and
women did errands for her of all types. None received money for their duties
although they were all "rewarded" in some way shape or form I heard. Some were
people who were beaten by her, I personally think that was the majority, and
some did it for god knows why. I have seen them run around and do stuff for
her, from warming up or cooling off her car, shopping and cleaning, standing
nearby at her beckoned call, doing favors for her girl friends, etc. I have
seen string looking guys and not so strong looking, I have seen the same in
women too. Crazy I know but true.

Does she always date handsome powerful guys?- Let me say this, in all those
summers and afterwards over all of those years I have seen quite a few and I
mean QUITE A FEW boyfriends with her. Often times short term but some I have
seen here and there over many years. Like I would say to someone, hey wasn't
that guy around her like 10 years ago type of thing. Naturally, most of her
boyfriends were very handsome and articulate and well built. Some were
dangerous looking muscular guys, a few were model types and dumb and some
almost regular in many ways. I could never figure out "her type" except that
she was with so many different guys it reminded of the expression "a kid in
the candy store" thing. Her first husband and my friend is a handsome,
non-fighter, super bright and funny guy while #2 was a fighter, handsome and
dumb and conceited jerk and # 3 seems bright, is handsome, non-fighter and all
three had one quality. They were all DAMN lucky men.

A lot of people asked me why I admitted to that Ab contest beat down I wrote
about- well it happened, it is part of my life and I read about her doing that
and worse, in public, to many others so why not? My wife already knew about
it. How do I feel about it now? Nothing to be proud of but still it is my
history. I had no idea it would end that way and being beaten into a vomiting
mess on the beach in front of my friends and seeing the same happen to them
was sickening in some ways but I accept the fact that she was a trained
athlete VS us. Being made to masturbate in front of her with my friends was
actually a cool sexual experience back then. She did not make us do it in a
mean way nor did she strike us or hurt us and it was voluntary or at least I
have to think that. But for all of us who know her and know how pretty and
sexy and powerful she is and knowing I was not married or even dating anyone
of significance back then I am fine with it. I am also fine knowing she NEVER
mentioned it or abused that power with me or either of my two buds as far as I
know. And no I would never consider doing that with her again after that and
she did ask me one other time in a kidding around way at a Halloween party
years afterwards. Being punched by her was AWFUL in every way you can imagine
and hitting her was like spitting in the wind. Yes, of course being jerking
off with those guys in front of her was screwed up but that was then, a long
time ago, and Karen was Karen and it happened and that's that.

--- The Exposed list on her site---- What do you want me to say about this. So
many of you are asking me. Listen, I am reporting on things I have seen or her
first hubby has told and tells me. Her website is her business. Since I can
read (and write) it is clearly a list of anonymous email people who have
harassed her over time. She has investigated these people, however she and her
"people" did that and has exposed these email people for who they really are
in real life. I do not know any of them nor do I know the stories behind them.
Apparently many of these people freaked the hell out, as I would, since she
has listed their real names, contact information, pictures in some cases and a
bunch of other VERY personal information. Besides the rants and threats from
these people, supposedly, the majotity of them have stopped. Good job Karen!!!

---NYC. Oh yeah baby, where I still live and love at least most of the time.
This is where she lived too for almost 2 decades. She comes back here 2-3
times a year and one of those times she invites people to come to see her
workout, does long question and answer sessions, signs things, does some
sparring sessions in Brooklyn and it is very well received. My wife and I and
the gang from the old days always attend a few of the events and of course
hangout with her and her family in one of their many apartments. Fun time that
I recommend highly. She announces everything on her website.

---Do I have pictures of her back then. Sure do, I have pics of all of us from
back then but I would never scan or post them. I have shared them with others
from the house but that is different. Really nothing you have not seen before
on her site or other places I have recently found out.

--Still received a lot of questions regarding her type of men she
likes----Like I said, I am not an expert on that but I know what I have seen.
It ranged from super handsome schmucks to muscle guys to really really and I
mean REALLY dumb fighters and athletes to regular guys. Karen was always with
a guy or two let's say. Regarding always having a boyfriend or three
concurrently? Yes, as far as I always saw that was true. But that was her
choice and her life.

---She lives in S. Florida in a very beautiful home. I will say this, since I
know firsthand. Karen comes from a family with a lot of dough but she is a
super normal woman in regards to that. Her Dad is a well known real estate
business guy, i.e., very rich I would say. Karen did live in killer apartments
in the city but was ALWAYS forthcoming in saying that if it was not for her
Dad she could never afford this and that. I mean her apartments were to die
for. She could have driven any kind of car she wanted but never drove anything
that stood out although she was usually being driven quite honestly. I know
from the other women she spent a lot on clothes and some specific jewelry but
never a lot or ostentatious in any way. Classy and sophisticated. She did
travel a lot. So that is that.

--- Other fighting modes""I have seen her box many times and I have seen her
arm wrestle a lot and I have seen and briefly experienced her wrestling. The
boxing is well documented, the arm wrestling is the same. I have seen her play
wrestle the women at the house over the years, not all of them just some and
maybe 1-2 were even remotely competitive which was no shock to anyone and she
was never hardcore mean with any of them except for one person. This one
person was not a house member but a guest and some kind of athletic background
I do not recall. On the pretty side with a thick decent body for back then but
I think what got Karen's juices going was her attitude. Since Karen does not
exude a toughness attitude one could be fooled into thinking she is just a
seriously beautiful women with muscles but cannot fight and these two had some
words and to the beach they went with all of us in tow, ha ha. The other girl
clearly had experience in wrestling by the way she handled herself and once
again I am sure she could give me a battle if not win, which is besides the
point. Anyway, within a few minutes she had the girl pinned with her sweaty
back on the sand and the opponent clearly surrended. Unfortunately, Karen was
not a gracious winner as she sat on her stomach and was posing and talking a
little too much in what was a competitive match for a few minutes. The other
girl had no idea how strong Karen was. Because of Karen's behavior they agreed
to go again after like 30 minutes and this time we saw the Karen temper. She
attacked this girl with an aggression she probably was not used to. Karen
grabbed her in a headlock and flipped her over her hip and got behind her and
choked her unconscious leaving us dumbfounded. Seeing Karen have her in that
grip with her biceps exploding and seeing the girls eyes roll back as she
struggled to get released from a hold she couldn't was frightening too many of
us quite frankly. Seeing Karen in the boxing ring was one thing knocking out
her opponents, like I have personally seen 6 times, but this was different
since it took 5-10 seconds for her to go out versus in boxing it was usually
one KO blow and it was over. As that was going on some of us said " Karen
stop" as we thought she was going to kill the poor girl but of course she knew
what and how to do it. She just released her grip and put her down gently on
the sand as the girls friends went over and were literally crying over her
unconscious body. It was not a good scene. Karen stood over them and lectured
them as to why she did it and then posed over the three of them on the sand.
Later that day we all saw Karen and this girl walk along the beach and saw the
girl, let's say, pay homage to Karen, as many of us have done over the years.
Not a pretty thing to witness I have to say./////// I have also seen her
wrestle guys from the house including me which was a joke since I was put in
some painful holds rather quickly. And yes, made to "pay homage" too. No more
about this as I am feeling shitty about myself right now.

I think I am done here. I said what I wanted, answered some questions and
expanded on others. Those who know me feel free to email me and those who do
not, well based on all the activity on her cool website that is free as a
bird, that seems to be a good thing. Hope this helped some of you who may have
been misguided or mistaken or just wanted clarity regarding the few things I
could attest to. Otherwise, I have no solid to connection to her and cannot
speak to things I have not personally witnessed or have been told by her X #1.
A shout out to the old crew and look forward to having a beer with you all
soon.

Bye